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It was not very long ago that a guy could be 6’3” or 6‘4”and be a legitimate SG / SF in the NBA. (I’m still not sure what the difference is between a SG and SF – although I give props to TigerHeel for trying to explain it in a comment to my posting – but that’s besides the point here.) Joe Dumars started on a championship team. He was 6’3”. Danny Ainge did, too. He was 6’4”. Byron Scott, also. He was 6’4”. Jeff Hornacek and Sidney Moncrief were All-Stars. They were both 6’4”.

Today, the guys who excel at SG / SF are generally taller. Kobe is 6’6”. So is Vince Carter. And Andre Iguodala. And Brandon Roy. And Manu Ginobili. Joe Johnson is 6’7”. Sure, there are exceptions, like Dwyane Wade (6’4”) and Ben Gordon (6’3”). But, in general, it seems like the quality perimeter players have grown about 2 inches in the past 20 years.

I don’t understand why. One possible explanation is that the general population is getting a bit taller on average. Lemme tell ya’… that ain’t happening.

See, when I’m not hacking away at my keyboard typing crazy ramblings about basketball, I’m a lawyer. As a lawyer, I have often, over the last few years, found myself in places with lots of lawyers, like courtrooms and law school classrooms. I promise you, I never once looked around one of those rooms, and thought “Wow, everyone here is 6’2”. I bet that this group of lawyers is about 2 or 3 inches taller than a similar group of lawyers would have been 20 years ago.”

Take it from me, if you’re ever in a courtroom, you’re not going to find yourself thinking “Geez, these people are TALL!!!” Wide, maybe. Tall, not so much.

So, if the general population isn’t getting taller, then why are perimeter players?

Another possible answer is that there are simply more people than there used to be, so there is a larger pool of people to draw NBA talent from. Thus, while 6’6” people might not represent a greater percentage of the population than they used to, there are more 6’6” people around, and, therefore, more 6’6” people who can play shooting guard at an NBA level.

That kind of makes sense, but here’s the thing… the guys who play other positions in the NBA aren’t really getting taller. Consider point guards: Chris Paul is 6’0”. Steve Nash is 6’3”. Jameer Nelson – an All-Star last year – is 6’0”. Jonny Flynn, a hotshot rookie, is also 6’0”.

In fact, the centers in the league seem to be shrinking. We used to have guys like Robinson, Olajuwon, Ewing, Mourning, and Mutombo. They were all big and strong (not to mention that they were better than just about all of the centers in the league right now). Even the mediocre guys were huge. Mark Eaton was 7’4”, and 290 pounds. Look at the dude (those “wristbands” are actually washcloths taped around his wrists). There was a dude named Chocolate Thunder, who SHATTERED A BACKBOARD, and a dude name TREE Rollins. Get it? TREE Rollins. And I haven’t even mentioned Bill Laimbeer.

Now, even with all the advancements in weight training over the last 20 years, this guy is a quality center on a team that is 8-2. This guy has been a starting center on a playoff team. Here he is “protecting the paint,” and here he is trying to knock his opponents out of the way as he pursues a loose ball – just like Bill Laimbeer used to. (Remember, he’s the one in the white uniform.) David Lee, who is 6’9”, is the starting center, and best player, on, um, the Knicks.

I don’t understand. The point guards pretty much stay the same size. The centers either stay the same, or shrink. The perimeter guys, though… they grow 2 or 3 inches. Why?

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LeBron James will be a popular topic of discussion on this site, because he, in my eyes, crystallizes lots of what is good and lots of what is bad about the state of the game today.
First, the good: He does things on the court that have never been done before. He’s big, strong, and fast. He can pass, shoot, and rebound. If someone wanted to argue that the game is played at a higher level than it has ever been played before, he would be Exhibit A.

And, he appeals to a wide range of people. He seems to be humble and soft-spoken. He has street cred. He’s intelligent. White parents buy his sneakers, and so do black teenagers. That’s part of the beauty of today’s game.

Now, the bad: He shows how the modern hype machine causes us to lose our perspective. People treat him like the Second Coming, even though he never led his team to a championship. Other great players that were expected to lead their teams to championships but couldn’t are considered disappointments by lots of folks. Allen Iverson, whom I will write about in more depth this week, was a superstar. But he couldn’t get his team over the hump, and the perception of him is that his game, while wonderful, is deficient. Now he can’t even get a job as a starter in the league, a fact that astonishes me. Years ago, Patrick Ewing was a superstar, but was widely perceived as deficient. Only two weeks ago, The Sports Guy posted a column on ESPN.com, saying of Ewing, “The sophisticated Knicks fans saw right through him, endlessly debating his virtues and repeatedly coming back to the same conclusion: As long as this is our best guy, we probably can’t win the title.” LeBron is immune to that type of criticism. When he doesn’t win championships, people blame his teammates. Why? It’s like people assume that LeBron’s good enough to lead a team to a championship, even though he never has.

He also, to some degree, highlights a big problem with the league. It’s now hard to build a winner through the draft. So lots of teams rely on free agency. As a result, they essentially strive to clear good players off their roster, so they’ll have “cap space” to land a dude like LeBron. For the team that’s able to do it, I guess the strategy makes sense. The problem is that there are 3 or 4 teams that are awful, whose only hope of getting better is landing a superstar. For the ones that don’t land one, they wind up being awful for a very long time.

The Knicks, of course are one of those teams, and their desperate attempt to get LeBron highlights this problem. I saw the desperation first-hand on Friday night, when I was fortunate enough to get a ticket to the Knicks-Cavs game at MSG. I couldn’t believe what I was watching. During timeouts, there were people shooting t-shirts into the stands, and kids riding around the court on unicycles. There was a group of dudes called the “Bucket Boys,” who used buckets as drums, and dazzled the crowd. Grandmaster Flash was DJ’ing. Chris Rock was in the stands, and so were a bunch of Yankees. And Giants. And ex-Knicks. And Reggie Jackson. And Jay-Z. By the end of the third quarter, I expected the Beatles to walk onto the court with Michael Jackson, and give a concert.

I think I actually smelled the desperation. But none of it masked the fact that the Knicks are, um… not good at basketball. They have no more than one guy who could start on a championship team – David Lee. And he’s no star. Realistically, he wouldn’t start on the Lakers, Spurs, Nuggets, Mavericks, Blazers, or Celtics. The only contenders I could see him making a difference for are Cleveland and Orlando.
But I digress. There will be more than enough Knick-bashing on this site. I don’t need to do it here.

One last point about LeBron, that isn’t necessarily a positive or a negative, but is a reflection of today’s game: He doesn’t really have a position. For him as an individual, this is a good thing; it makes him a versatile weapon. But, for the league as a whole, I don’t think it’s a good thing to have too many stars without positions.

Interestingly, the best teams generally have guys that fit the traditional roles. The Lakers and Celtics both have point guards who look to distribute (Rondo / Fisher), shooting guards that can’t be left open from anywhere (Kobe / Allen), small forwards who can attack and also post up (Pierce / Odom), power forwards with good post moves and big bodies (Garnett / Gasol) and centers who generally live in the paint (Perkins / Bynum). LeBron is phenomenal, but when a bunch of teams try to build around guys who don’t really have positions, it can get ugly.

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